And this is the different shape of under-dish for the larger Gravy Boat.
It almost looks like a side/bread and butter plate but measures about
18cm across at the widest points, with the centre diameter about 11cm
wide.
The delightfully named "Astor Celery
Tray" -
I love that they can be so specific! This measures approximately 23cm x
11cm and as you can see there are at least two different versions that
I'm aware of...mine has the gilding around the scalloped decorative area
each side and in the centre, but not around the very outside of the
plate. There is also another version that has gilding around the outside
and inside but not on the decorations. Probably also more that I haven't
yet come across!
I have seen
these called a Strawberry Plate
but really it's a salad or vegetable strainer (Royal Winton call these a
Cress Plate), and I believe they are supposed
to come with an underplate - I have seen the large, square plates used
for this purpose as I have photographed here, as well as the large
dinner plates, and can't confirm what they were originally meant to be
teamed with. These are exactly like an oatmeal bowl
but with strainer holes set into it, and measure 19.5cm
in diameter and 4.5cm deep. As shown, they come with both plain and
fluted edges.
I have only seen this dish come up for
auction a couple of times and then it was just referred to as a "Deep
Serving Dish" which measures approximately 23cm x 16cm and 3cm deep.
Serving Platters! Another essential piece
if you're like me and actually occasionally use your set. These came in
three sizes - small (28cm), Medium (34cm) and the large Turkey Platter
at 39cm. From
what I've been told, the Small can be as hard to track down as the
Large - I am so lucky to have all three. I strongly suspect there may
even be a smaller, 26cm size out there as I have one of those in the
Royal Doulton Rosslyn set and have never seen anything made in Rosslyn
(except footed egg-cups) that I've not yet seen replicated in English
Rose.
For one of the smallest pieces of the
collection, the humble Egg Cup is also one
of (annoyingly!) the most expensive when you can find them! It took me ages
to find mine, and I'm still needing 2 of the "footed" versions so if
anyone has them to sell then please do contact me through the Facebook
page!
This is the standard and more
easily found egg cup, measuring about 5cm tall and 4.3cm across the top
diameter, really sweet. I have seen these stamped with shape number "4".
And here's the harder to find 6cm
high "footed" version which I suspected for a while might exist (as I
have the same shape in my Rosslyn collection) but it took me a while to
locate some in the UK. I still need 2 more for my set!!
Tea Set Pieces - Cups, Teapots etc
The pride and joys of my collection - the
stunning teapots have been my most enjoyable pieces to find but worth every cent I paid. Note
the differences between those with the
beautiful rope-patterned gilding on the handles and the rose patterns
that go right to the edges as compared to the plain handles with the
white band around the top of the rose pattern. Of course they also made the
matching milk jugs with different handles and patterning so it's nice to have some that
match!
From my
experience when consulting with other collectors, the standard shape of
teapot (shown above) came in 4 heights (this is measured from the base
to the top of the lid as accurately as possible) - 13cm (which is about
15cm wide from spout to handle), 14cm (about 18cm wide from spout to
tip), 16cm (about 19cm from spout to tip) and and 18cm (23cm from spout
to tip). So then if you factor in plain handles and rope-patterned
handles for each that's potentially 8 different teapots available in
this shape alone (this makes me tired just thinking about it!)
These are my two medium sized teapots
which measure approximately 16cm high from base to top-of-lid, and 19cm
wide from handle to spout at the top. I feel a bit self-indulgent having
two actually, but as one has the plain handle and one the rope handle I
just had to have both!
Here's a closer view of the plain handled medium
teapot - I'm so lucky to have found one in such truly immaculate
condition...looks never to have been used.
And here are some closer shots of my
rope-handled medium teapot, again in immaculate condition.
My absolute pride and joy, the Holy
Grail of my Collection, the "Baby Teapot" or Teapot for One which took
me years to find...since then I've seen a few come out of hibernation
for auction but still less than 10 total that I've seen. The photo on the right shows it in
comparison to the Largest Size of this shape of Teapot and I find them
just gorgeous when displayed this way (like a Mother and Child!).
This is my
second-to-smallest teapot which is apparently also really hard to find, so
please give me a shout if you're lucky enough to own this size too, just so I
know there's another out there somewhere! It measures approximately 14cm
high from base to top-of-lid, and 18cm wide from handle to spout at the top.
Mine's not in the most immaculate condition, with a few small chips and surface
cracks, as well as some crazing to the glaze, but I love it all the same. It has
the plain handle.
The Largest of all the teapots,
this impressive piece is 18cm tall and I LOVE mine - I don't think it's
ever been used and I'm not about to start!
I adore this one simply because up until
I found it I didn't know this shape existed and I find it exceptionally
lovely even though it's quite plain compared to the others - very Art Deco
in styling. My Royal Doulton Identification Guide calls this shape the
"Joan" teapot (I do like to name my teapots!). It has a large
number 30 actually carved into the base next to the stamp so I'm
wondering if that makes it one of the earlier pieces from 1930 - it
certainly seems to match the footed milk jug and sugar bowl (see rare
pieces at the bottom of the page). It stands about 13cm high and then it
approximately 19.5cm from handle to spout.
Here is the gorgeous Coffee Pot, a
slightly hard to find piece but again well worth having. It stands
approximately 23cm high.
The gorgeous Hot Water Pot - one of
which I've finally managed to track down for my collection. Apparently
these were made in two sizes, 22cm and 24cm - mine's the 24cm version.
Of course these both also came in different styles as well (mine has a
plain handle) so of course the hunt never ends!
I'm so embarrassed as it was only just
pointed out to me by a wise friend that this large 21cm high "teapot" (so I
thought) is actually another coffee pot :o) She worked it out because of
course it has no strainer holes at the inner base of the spout - totally
logical when you look at it that way! Regardless, I adore it - just so elegant and beautiful.
Again this one has a rope handle. My Royal Doulton Identification Guide
has a drawing of a very similar one and they call the shape the "Cecil
Coffee Pot" - I'm guessing this is the same one.
This is the hot water pot with the rope handle that matches my coffee pot above
- I really love all my rope handled pieces, they look so pretty together as you
can see. It's just under 20cm tall all up, including the handle, and a rounder
shape than the other hot water pot, with a slightly more pointed spout.
There are, I believe, four different
sizes and styles of cups - the traditional teacups which stand 7cm tall
with an 8.5cm top diameter (have seen these marked with shape number
"3") and have 14.5cm wide saucers, the smallest demitasse cups for the coffee
set which stand 5.5cm tall, have 6cm diameter FLUTED tops, and 11.5cm
wide saucers, the larger demitasse cups which are basically the same
shape as the teacups but smaller - they measure 6cm tall with 6.5cm
ROUND tops and have 11.5cm wide saucers, and then also the large
Grandfather cups which are 8cm tall with 16.5cm wide saucers.
My photo here shows the standard
(non-fluted) shape in all three sizes from Grandfather down to
demitasse.
As
you can see, you can have fun finding different ways of displaying your
Duos and Trios - I especially love the teacups displayed like this, with
a Bread and Butter Round plate and then a Square Sandwich plate at the
base.
Pictured here is a traditional teacup on
the left with the small demitasse cup on the right - very cute (and I
need more of the fluted demitasse cups and saucers to make up my sets if anyone has them
please!)
These shots show the difference between
the two sizes of demitasse - for the longest time I had only ever seen
the version on the left and didn't even know that the smaller, footed
one on the right even existed! I can't decide which one I like better
:o)
I have so far managed to document 5 different sizes and shapes of Sugar Bowls
and there are possibly more!
This is the most commonly found shape, showing the different between
large and small.
This is the
largest of the sugar bowls at about 11cm wide x 6cm high,
with patterning that went either to the rim or had a white band as shown
here.
The smallest of the bowls at 8.5cm wide x 5cm high, which, again, came
in two pattern styles as per the large size, as well as in versions that
have either a plain round top or a slightly
fluted-edge as shown on the right.
This
size was a surprise to me, located by accident after several years of
collecting, and I've yet to see another. It's just slightly higher and
wider than the small sugar bowl (shown here with a small bowl either
side), at 9.5cm wide x 5cm high. Mine has the
patterning to the edge and a plain round rim - I'd love to know if it
came with the white band pattern or a fluted rim as well.
This is another
rare shape of sugar bowl -
it measures about 10cm across and 7cm high making it taller, by 1cm,
than the larger diameter 11cm version (pictured with it here in the
photo on the right), so a completely different shape
altogether.
See also the rare footed sugar bowl towards the bottom of
this page, under Rare Pieces
Milk Jugs and Creamers! Since I've
started collecting English Rose it's slowly sunken in just how many
potentially different styles of jugs there actually are - not only do
you have all the different shapes and sizes, but then some come with
plain handles and some also with rope handles, and - like the sugar
bowls - some have patterns that run right to the very top rim of the jug
while others have a white band around the rim before the rose pattern
starts.
Make sure you also check the rare dual-handled jug towards the bottom of
this page, under Rare Pieces
Far and away my favourite shaped jug -
look at the lipped spout on this, it's divine! I inherited this in the
Rosslyn pattern and couldn't rest until I also found it in English Rose.
One of the rarer little jugs, and it stands about 10cm high.
This seems to be the most common shape
for the milk jugs but comes in a variety of sizes and versions as you
can see - I have it in 13cm,
10cm and 9cm versions so far (see below for pics of each individually)
so the mind boggles at how many there are potentially! I love the stout
shape :o)
This is the largest of the jugs in my
collection at 13cm high (and 14cm wide from spout to handle) - it looks like you'd use it in a Breakfast Set,
for pouring milk onto cereal etc. Note the white band at the rim before
the floral pattern begins, unlike the smaller versions below.
These shots show the 10cm high (and 11cm
wide from spout to the ridge on the handle) versions I have
- both have rose patterns that go right to the rims but one has the rope
handle and the other has the plain handle - good for me as I now have
different ones to match each teapot!.
And closer shots of the individual 10cm
jugs.
This is the creamer that most people seem
to have, it just seems to be the most commonly found size in my
experience, and stands about 9.5cm high and 10cm wide from spout to the
ridge on the handle.
This is the
different size of creamer, being thinner than the regular size and with
a small, footed base -I am wondering if it is made
to go with the Coffee Pot? It stands about 9cm high and 8.5cm wide from
spout to the ridge on the handle.
In the same
shape as the 9cm version above, this is my second favourite size jug - my version
has a lot of crazing as you can see but I LOVE it as it's only 7.5cm
high, and 7cm wide spout to handle, and SO cute! When I bought it online, not knowing the size, I
actually assumed it was the same as the one above (only with the rope
handle, thus making it very desirable to me to match my teapots!) so
when it arrived I was pleasantly surprised to find out it was a whole
new "species". Really, really sweet! The first shot shows it next to its
Big Sister above. I have since acquired the same size with the band at
the rim, like the 9cm one above - will photograph ASAP.
Add to those sizes above, I
have now learned of another size that this design comes in - a fellow
collector has the two shown above that are 8cm high and
7cm wide spout to handle, each with a slightly different sized top band
and transfer.
This is the Rectangular Cake Plate which
measures approximately 21cm x 18cm. Like the rectangular sandwich plate, the pattern on these can vary -
the version on the left has the
large rose sprays centred on each side of the plate, whereas the other
features two sprays each on the longer sides. I have seen these
backstamped with the shape number "7979".
Purists probably don't like me calling
this a Cake Plate as in reality I believe it's supposed to be the
under-saucer for the Soup/Vegetable Tureen. But it makes a GREAT Cake
Plate and that's usually what you see it being sold as! As you can
see, there are two different versions that I've seen - the first has what
I call "Angel Wing" gilded handles while the second has a more swirly
print, almost rope-like. They measure approximately 23cm x 25cm (wider
at the handles)
The Rectangular Sandwich serving plate
which measures approximately 27cm x 13cm. There are two different designs available in this as shown in
the photo on the right - note how the top plate has the roses centred,
while the bottom has them spread about. The larger rectangular cake plates
have the same variation.
My favourite of the plate shapes - the
Square Sandwich plate which is harder to find than
the round plates. It comes in two sizes - 15cm in diameter and 20cm as
seen here. I've included it in the Tea Set as I think that's
more where it belongs than as a Dinner Piece.
Decorative Pieces
Many of these pieces with the exception
of the pin dishes are harder (some VERY hard) to find than the standard
plates and cups but well worth the hunt to add something special to your
collection
One of my favourite pieces - there's just
something so aesthetically pleasing about this shape! This is the square
Bon Bon dish, shown here in all three sizes - 9cm (style 8015B), the
middle 10cm size (style 8015A) and the largest 11cm size (style 8015). As you can see they even look nice nestled inside
one another!
Most people (including me!) refer to
these as pin dishes although strictly speaking I'm sure they're supposed
to be butter pats and certainly work well for that when in use at a
dinner party. They measure about in 10cm diameter and as you can see
came with a rounded edge, less often found, or the more commonly seen fluted edge on the
right.
I LOVE this piece - a little double
sided, divided Bon Bon dish (I've also seen this described as a Nut Dish
or Jam Dish and all seem appropriate). I find it so beautiful that I even bought one in
the Royal
Doulton Roses (D5533) version as well when the opportunity presented
itself! It's about 16cm x 7cm (in the centre). Great for
putting jewellery in, in my humble opinion :o)
This one is really lovely - a scallop
edged Bon Bon dish (or I suppose it could be for nuts etc?) with a fluted edge.
As you can see there are two extremely
similar versions, both of which measure approximately 14cm x 12cm in
diameter, but they have different edges.
Another favourite piece of mine - a little
Scallop Shaped Bon Bon dish that measures approximately 13cm x 11cm in
diameter
I adore this one - it measures a little
bigger than a regular pin dish at 10.5cm fluted side to fluted side and
13cm from tab side to fluted side, and the scalloped edges are a little
more pronounced than a pin dish. Like a cross between a pin dish and the
scallop-shaped dish as you can see in the picture on the right.
GORGEOUS!
Rare Pieces
Here are some very scarcely-found pieces
that have rarely or never come up for auction on eBay for example, and which
I'd love to find for myself one day!
I am grateful to Steve Patching from The China Bay in the UK for
confirming the above is definitely a butter dish as opposed to a cheese
dish, as the cheese dish - if one existed - would be wedge shaped.
I'd almost resigned
the Salt and Pepper shakers to the vault of "they never existed" until a wonderful lady emailed me a
photo of her salt cellar (many thanks, you know who you are!). A lucky
friend was then later also able to track down a pair of them, and I love
being able to document them here and hope that one day I can find a set
for myself. As you can see they appear to use the same mould as the egg
cups and feature wooden stoppers, painted cream.
The toast rack - I am only aware of 3 of these in the hands of all the
many collectors I know, and thank you to my friend who sent me these photos
of hers. Isn't it absolutely
gorgeous? My friend describes it as being very delicate to hold so you
can see why they are now so scarce. The Backstamp dates this one to 1941.
I love this too - I've NEVER seen one of these before, a milk jug with a
dual, roped handle. It measures 11cm from spout to handle and 9.5cm at
the spout which is the highest point. Something to look out for! You can
see the size comparison in the photo below:
Another super-rare piece that I only saw for the first time after I'd
already been collecting for a decade. It's a sweet little gravy boat, measuring 13.5 cm
from spout to handle and 7cm at the highest point which is the handle.
Again, you can see a size comparison with the regular gravy boat in the
photo above. I adore the shape. Thanks again to my friend who sent me
these, lucky, lucky lady that she is!
I really love
this shape of dish - have only seen one come up on eBay a few times. Very Art Deco,
almost hexagonal with little cut-out decorative tabs at the sides.
Measures about 17cm x 14cm, and so lovely!
This little piece is a covered
Honey or Jam Pot (am wondering if it also came with an English Rose ceramic
spoon?)
The lucky owner of this stunning little piece
calls it a Covered Sauce Bowl - I am in love with the rose shaped top
handle and find this just exquisite - again I wonder what the matching
spoon was supposed to be like
The Covered Soup Tureen
is
distinctly different from the more commonly seen Vegetable Tureen
pictured earlier, and I have seen two
different designs - the second doesn't have the gold band on the lid
that the first one does. What it does have, however (and hugely
excitingly!) is the almost mythical matching ladle, AND the under-dish! The specs provided were that the Tureen itself is about 29.5cm across
the handles, the under-plate 30cm across, and the ladle about 31cm long.
These are apparently older pieces in the
collection - a footed sugar bowl and milk jug which make them quite
distinct from the more commonly found flat-based versions. My jug is
dated at 1941. The sugar
bowl measures about 11cm across the top and stands about 6cm high. The
jug is 11cm high as well as 11cm across from spout-tip to handle.
Non-Original Pieces
I've included
photos of a few pieces here that were
never part of the original production run of English Rose and which
instead have been rather creatively made by companies such as Replacements.com
and other manufacturers. I do get squeamish at the thought of perfectly good Dinner plates - or even WORSE the Square Sandwich plates
- having holes drilled into them to make them, but I can certainly see
why they'd appeal to people, they're very pretty. I do want one of the
clocks they made - I'd sacrifice a plate for a clock to hang in my
office :o)
The ones shown
below are all reproductions but (and again thanks to Steve from The
China Bay!) I am told there probably are original versions of the tiered
and single-handled cake plates out there, given the era English Rose was
being produced and the fact that (to paraphrase what Steve helpfully
told me) at that time Afternoon (high) tea and tea shops were very
popular and these plates would have been just the way they would have
served cakes and other sweets. So I live in hope and assume the way I'll
be able to tell is when I see one where the back-stamp is off-centre to
the handle, and not drilled through? Another Holy Grail to add to my
list :o)
This is the Cheese Dome with separate
glass cover and metal base (2nd picture)
The tiered Cake Plate which is available
in single (so is that then still tiered?! lol!), double and triple layer versions